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Dexxer
12 May 2008, 12:41
IMPORTANT WRONG TREAD, BIG SORRY .. have to be in BALANCE OR GENERAL TALK..... BIG SORRY pls switch.


Well i would like to post something NICE for black sea studios ^^.
Because there are many post, how unbalanced all things are ^^, BUT THEY ARE NOT.

And to prove that, i would like to take the top 4 of the Dethmatch ladder. (sry for rank 5.. i dont know NOW who it is ^^)

(Its my summary / impression of the players i played in the last 3 days)

Game stats: 12/05/08

Rank 1 : HEXON : Play Human
with mass Reapers + Constructor

Rank 2 : DanteOne : Play Cult
with mass Trisat + Arbiter Fear

Rank 3 : DunkleSeele : Play Tribes <-- play aggressive like a rush but with mass hit and run
with mass Warrior + Horror + Cast-Kombo (Freeze + Incinerate

Rank 4 : Dexxer (me ^^) : Play Cult <--- i play hit and run
with mass Tritech + Dominator + Cast-Kombo ( Dimension Chain + Nether Nova )



So what u can see is : All 3 Nations are in the top 5 ! and there are different play-styles(see dante play trisat and I play tritech ). That proves that no race is really BAD or 1 play style is really dominating !

Of course its not perfect but hey its just the beginning ^^

P.S. Dont wanted to blame someone or anything ^^ see it as an cheer up ! ^^

MFG Dexxer

DanteOne
12 May 2008, 12:43
HeXoN doesnt count, he refuses to play against Seele and me

Garand
12 May 2008, 12:49
Heh playstyle changes with the artifacts you have - back in the beta I had a some low-tier strategies, a couple mid-tier and 1-2 high tier with the humans. They worked well in the tier they were intended to be.
So tell me -are you all racked up with purples? I would also like to finally recieve the stats of the buffed units . Everyone shouts "they are imba" or "no,they are not" without providing any information.


Hexon 1st? Hm didn't I scrap him anywhere I saw him during the beta?

Dexxer
12 May 2008, 12:58
well my grid is complete and skilled on tritech of course , but my items are bad... have not any good item for my play style... ^^ no viollet items

Garand
12 May 2008, 13:05
Well Overpower and focus fire buffs tritech directly , I don't remember about other things. How I see the tritech cult - officers being the major units,the rest is support- chains first,then nova, then fear when chains wear out and the triteches shooting the poor sods. However against buffed player you won't stand much chance so artifacts are more important than specs.


P.S. Are you sure Hexon is 1st? I mean srsly...

Fluppy
12 May 2008, 13:12
Yes he is... With a realy lame tactic... (I dont mean the way he plays...)

Garand
12 May 2008, 13:15
I get the feeling you're doing something wrong -can't wait for the BG release to test it myself :)

Fluppy
12 May 2008, 13:19
Like i said: Thats not what i mean.

He just Alt+F4 out of the game before you get to the loading screen if he sees that he got an enemy who could beat him.
You won't even get to play against him...

Dexxer
12 May 2008, 13:34
Well Overpower and focus fire buffs tritech directly , I don't remember about other things. How I see the tritech cult - officers being the major units,the rest is support- chains first,then nova, then fear when chains wear out and the triteches shooting the poor sods. However against buffed player you won't stand much chance so artifacts are more important than specs.


P.S. Are you sure Hexon is 1st? I mean srsly...


yes he is 1st ^^

and .. well offizers are not that big .. ^^ split your units ? ^^ attak from 3 sides ? have 300 apms... the enemy cant allways kill you just with 3 spells...

i dont know how u done in the beta ^^ but i was in the top 100 in warcraft 3 and won the Guild wars Taktiks 1on1 german Mastership

and in that games skill (apms ^^ and taktik) was the main point !

will see how it works in a real tornament like in the esl... ^^ ... THEN an other MAIN POINT comes out ^^ : NOT to lose ones head , because u play not only for fun, U play for money or prizes.

Garand
12 May 2008, 13:43
Lol noone speaks about an attack from 3 sides - just spread a little so freeze won't get all your units. Seriously ,if you just attack-move ,how do you expect to win against any competent player? 300 apms? Heh When I finish my games I ususally go over 1000 commands against any decent player. Usually I stay between 400-600 against noobs ;]

And officers are THE biggest thing. You'll learn in time..

Dexxer
12 May 2008, 13:50
Lol noone speaks about an attack from 3 sides - just spread a little so freeze won't get all your units. Seriously ,if you just attack-move ,how do you expect to win against any competent player? 300 apms? Heh When I finish my games I ususally go over 1000 commands against any decent player. Usually I stay between 400-600 against noobs ;]

And officers are THE biggest thing. You'll learn in time..

-.- sry to say that but 300apms means.. 300 aktions pro minute.. that means: in a 10 min game = 3000 commands -.-


I never said that i have 300 apms xD ... i only say that good player have that.. its averange.. there are player in Korea with 600 apms in starcraft... and they are awesome !

Garand
12 May 2008, 14:00
I know that is aCtion per second . I really doubt you always click 5 times per sec - you may click 1-2 per sec to redirect your troops while moving in case they decide to take the back route and increase the aps to 4-5 during in battle - but to click constantly for 10 minutes 5 times a sec -naah I don't believe that . Simply because you get no benefit from it outside battle (and sometimes even in -battle).

On the other hand it's a good excersise for the fingers .

Fluppy
12 May 2008, 14:30
APM are not just clicks.

Pressing buttons on the keyboard count to it, too.