Inheritance question

[Veteranfromhell]

Hi, I'm fairly new to the game and haven't quite figured everything out yet, glad to see the forums are still active! Anyways I would like to know how inheritance works. If I marry my prince to a certain princess, and the King dies....I get a pop-up asking if I want to claim land....I say yes, thinking they have no heir or they woudn't have asked me to claim it.....but there is a heir, he gets pissed, refuses to give me the land and I get -5 KP......please clarify how it works I obviously dont get it, and how do I know if there is a heir or not ? Thanks.

[Pintbomb]

The way inheritance works is determined by when kings die. If a king from a country dies and his wife or any of his princes' wives are still members of another country's royal family (I.e. the wife's father hasn't died yet) then the country whose princess is married to your prince or king at the time of the king's death can choose to claim land. If you have good relations and you say yes, the other country can be nice and give you the land or they can say no and spoil your relations, lowering your KP.

If you have bad relations, you won't lose as much KP but the odds of them giving you the land is lower anyways.

It doesn't have to do with heirs. If your king dies and you still have a prince as an heir, other countries with kings/princes in a royal marriage to any of your princesses can claim land.

It's tricky business. I will usually only claim land if I'm already in wars with people and don't mind another one if my claim is rejected.

[maks]

All and all, it's much like a gamble. Whether you have good relations with them is often irrelevant. I tend to believe chances depend on some of the following things: the new king's personality, his willingness to start another war, your current global reputaion and your king's diplomacy skill. Or I may be completly wrong about it all. >.<

[Veteranfromhell]

Oh I see, and if my king dies and another kingdom' prince who is married to my princess claims some of my land, can I refuse as they probably would ? And if so, is my KP affected by it ? Thanks for the quick replies by the way.

[Pintbomb]

Yes in the situation you just mentioned, you can choose as well.

If you decide to not claim land, your relations go up really high to Harmonious probably assuming you didn't have terrible relations to begin with.

If you decide to claim land and they accept than your relationship is hurt I believe but you get the land and maintain any agreement/pact/alliance you had.

If you decide to claim land and they refuse then you break all relations and sometimes you go to war. I think if you had any relations at first they just end, and if you were neutral you go to war, but I'm not positive.

[Veteranfromhell]

Thanks Pintbomb thats exactly what I wanted to know. One last thing, what happens to the relationship when THEY claim land and I refuse ?

[Pintbomb]

If you refuse (which I always do since I'm not giving up my land) it breaks relations with them if you had any and may cause war.

I'm not sure if it always causes war or only when you had no previous relations besides the "Royal marriage". Either way, you lose KP and relations go down with them.

[Veteranfromhell]

Ok great, thanks for the help !

[ecthelion]

If they claim land and you refuse, it always goes to war, even if you were harmonious with them (usually your relations will drop to something like uneasy at that point) and had agreements. The same holds true for you - if you claim land and you're refused, the two kingdoms are now at war. I never approve claims for land, and quite often I get that other kingdom to be my vassal (or I just decide to conquer them outright) as part of the peace terms (after which I send in a spy to annex them, or let them remain my vassal, since they have to give tribute in the form of money as long as they stay my vassal).