[PvP/Training] Control Towers

[BryanFury]

i have tought about one thing...each main tower (Except for Mutants) have the possibility to add turret towers/Eggs...but the problem is that these things spawn randomly...

my idea is make the player choose where to place his own turrets towers/eggs but ofc in the limited area where they spawn now, and not far away from the tower...

[Arcador]

Turrets usually place themselves on equal distance from each other thus vs Ranged attackers 2 shoot and 1 "wait".

The eggs...well there was no eggs in the demo so I hope another player will elaborate on this :)

[sybex]

Well the defences Human -> Turrets, Alien -> Eggs, Tribes -> ?Firelash? (don't know the original name) are just for defending against a small amount of troops, there is no base building in this game ... you attack and defend with your troops.
The Defences are not strong enough to count on them, so why choosse a place for them?

I'm against this, it just take more time to build the "nearly useless" defence.

Btw. The Alien eggs spawn rnd you can't build nem, but they make area dmg so... the place is not really intresting.

[BryanFury]

Well the defences Human -> Turrets, Alien -> Eggs, Tribes -> ?Firelash? (don't know the original name) are just for defending against a small amount of troops, there is no base building in this game ... you attack and defend with your troops.
The Defences are not strong enough to count on them, so why choosse a place for them?

I'm against this, it just take more time to build the "nearly useless" defence.


it's even a defence...any kind of help that you can take is not usless....

[sybex]

but human / tribes defence cost too much ^^

[BryanFury]

but human / tribes defence cost too much ^^

i know, but what there is wrong in make the player choose where to place his own turrets, even if you can't place them far away but at the same distance that you have now? it will make defence better for who use Humans with larger maps with 4+(2vs2+) players


maybe like other games, where you can see a green circle around the main tower and you will place each turret where you want in this space

[sybex]

well if tower would focus fire or can be controlled perhaps, but as long as drop a brute swarm or troopers and kill all guns and perhaps the base -> the guns a nearly useless.

Btw I didn't see so much players with guns in dm, because they costs 200 credits, you can use this money for upgrading an extractor -> this makes more sense.

In my most cases the DM matches weren't soo long that me or my enemy can use guns. If you think i have no idea of DM check the stats my place should be 15 atm (will play again when the cheater problem is fixed).

And so setting up the guns in an area is just wasting time as long as they are so weak.
Don't get me wrong but why waste money and time for a defence which can be destroyed with the same credits (trooper drop or brute swarm).

So you see, setting up guns in an small area would be fine if they would make more sense as they do atm.

just my two cents :D

[BryanFury]

well if tower would focus fire or can be controlled perhaps, but as long as drop a brute swarm or troopers and kill all guns and perhaps the base -> the guns a nearly useless.

Btw I didn't see so much players with guns in dm, because they costs 200 credits, you can use this money for upgrading an extractor -> this makes more sense.

In my most cases the DM matches weren't soo long that me or my enemy can use guns. If you think i have no idea of DM check the stats my place should be 15 atm (will play again when the cheater problem is fixed).

And so setting up the guns in an area is just wasting time as long as they are so weak.
Don't get me wrong but why waste money and time for a defence which can be destroyed with the same credits (trooper drop or brute swarm).

So you see, setting up guns in an small area would be fine if they would make more sense as they do atm.

just my two cents :D

have 3 towers all near that are shoting at the same target with the help of the basic lasers of the upgraded tower make sense :D

and anyway, sometime in big maps can happen to upgrade also with towers and they are really usefull when you are under attack with almost equal number of forces

for my point that is a thing to be done, because at least, is a way for slow the enemy if he's attacking you...and that will not unbalance the game too, since the towers will still be on the actually near area of the main tower

[CheeseThief]

Human defence towers are rather powerful, and a great force multiplier. Able to be quickly built, they can easily turn a lost Control Tower into a sizable victory for the human player. They won't go fighting off whole armies, but they are deadly enough to make your opponent think about attacking them. So long as you don't place them when they aren't needed, or on a lost cause, Turrets are extremely potent.

It would however be nice if you could angel their placement yourself, because having two Turrets on the wrong side of the Tower isn't really that nice. Being able to place all three turrets independently would be seriously overpowering though, being able to dump all 3 on a single side just wouldn't be cricket.

[BryanFury]

at least, no words from the dev team?

[Myrael]

well i have not that much playexperience as u guys but i play many rts games so i know what it means to be able to place some turrets or defense structures at all.
If u can place it were u want it gives u an even bigger advantage as u can have when the structures are placed randomly because of the easy thing
if u just place them at one side
this side is better covered than the otherside (logic right ) well, maybe you want it so because you can cover the other side with your troops better than the turrets
and in this case its an enormous advantage for placing the turrets on your own

when you dont have this "might" you have to move more with your troops and might lose 1 or 2 positions while your attacking and cant defend with your turrets

i hope you understand what i mean

well
atleast let me tell you my own opinion about placing the defense on my own or not ^^
i think its good as it is because i have to move more with my units when i cant place them
it makes the game more interesting and a bit more difficult
well then
good luck and happy micro my friends =)

[jediguardian]

It is already discussed. The turrets will stay as they are.