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Thats not fair! First of all I am pissed. Why Germans have page on their native language and we don't have one?:bash: Can't you guys make this official site with several languages? I feel robbed. It is not a shame to speak on your native language, but we are Bulgarians for God sake.
PS: This is constructive criticisum, don't get mad. I've got sugestion- make official site with several languages.
PSS:I will not excuse for my english; when Englishmen begin to excuse for their bulgarian I will do so.
jediguardian
10 Jan 2008, 13:48
I have no problem with the german site. After all Black Inc. is german company. As for the bulgarian - I am still not sure even about the bg translation BSS will make, because we may get the patches months later like once happened to Tzar.
ezsteel
10 Jan 2008, 14:30
Thats not fair! First of all I am pissed. Why Germans have page on their native language and we don't have one?:bash: Can't you guys make this official site with several languages? I feel robbed. It is not a shame to speak on your native language, but we are Bulgarians for God sake.
PS: This is constructive criticisum, don't get mad. I've got sugestion- make official site with several languages.
PSS:I will not excuse for my english; when Englishmen begin to excuse for their bulgarian I will do so.
So the German publisher made a site in German and you are complaining? Grow up...
For your information the Russian publisher has made a site in Russian. And the other publishers will probably make sites in their languages. Or maybe they won't.
Black Sea or their corresponding Bulgarian publisher will probably make a site in Bulgarian. Or maybe they won't. Sites and site support cost money after all.
As for your last remark, a few billion people understand English, a few million people understand Bulgarian. Like it or not, this is reality.
If you want a Bulgarian site, make one! Otherwise, if you want someone else to make it instead of you, the least you can do is to mind your tone when asking for that favour! Like it or not, the world doesn't revolve around us!
Black Sea or their corresponding Bulgarian publisher will probably make a site in Bulgarian. Or maybe they won't. Sites and site support cost money after all.
Yeah, yeah. I am not so dumb. This is only a dream for the next 20 years or more... who knows? I just loose the steam.
About the Bulgarian publisher- if s.o. hear something about it let's share with us. I hope there will be nice to play in your language. The feeling is different I can tell you....
Thats not fair! First of all I am pissed.
Same here. (though it's a good idea to practise my English, but a German site...)
If you want a Bulgarian site, make one!
That was mine idea too. But that really costs money...
jediguardian
10 Jan 2008, 18:05
BSS itself will publish WS in Bulgaria as stated.
And last, WorldShift will be published in Bulgaria by Black Sea Studios itself, fully localized in Bulgarian language.
The game will probably be sold in Pulsar or Transfer group shops.
Richard
11 Jan 2008, 01:39
Thats not fair! First of all I am pissed. Why Germans have page on their native language and we don't have one?:bash: Can't you guys make this official site with several languages? I feel robbed. It is not a shame to speak on your native language, but we are Bulgarians for God sake.
PS: This is constructive criticisum, don't get mad. I've got sugestion- make official site with several languages.
PSS:I will not excuse for my english; when Englishmen begin to excuse for their bulgarian I will do so.
My opinion is that, BSS is a business, a business needs to look for the place that makes the most money and publicity. In that respect, germany > bulgaria.
Also, the publisher is German.
In business, nationalism matters little. That's how the world works.
There will probably be a Bulgarian site, but that will be the job for the publisher in that area, which happens to be BSS itself, which is busy making the game. And what do you prefer, a web site in your language or a better game?
Just a question.
English is spoken by few billions of people, both German and Russian by over 100 millions, Bulgarian by 7-8 millions? If it would be up on you to make a site that costs you money and - more importantly - time you need for many other things, would you bother to do something for such small market?
So do you actually ask BSS to make a site in al those languages that have more or equal speakers than Bulgarian? To stay just in Europe it means you have all of these: French, Italian, Spanish, Polish, Romanian, Dutch, Swedish, Portugeese, Greek, Czech, Hungarian, etc.? That's a lot of work to do, shouldn't they better work on Worldshift instead?
Patriotism is great, but if it costs you money and ties your potential that could (should) be used somewhere else, it's just question of your heart. So better wait untill they make a Bulgarian translation or do it yourself, if you really think you need it. But better don't shout for it, I believe that now you can realize how unimportant it is for someone who thinks rationaly and not just by his patriotic heart.
Frankoman
14 Jan 2008, 23:54
Isn't them a Bulgarian Company? I remember reading that somewhere on a review for Knights of Honor.
Black Sea Studios is a game-developing studio, based in Sofia, Bulgaria, yes. Black Inc. (the publisher) is a sub-division of RTL, based in Germany.
Well, isn't the developer more important than the publisher?
Mephistopheles
15 Jan 2008, 13:44
No, because the publisher pays the developer's wages. So when the publisher says "Do this" the developers have to because otherwise they can't feed their kids. Also, there are of course legal agreements that put quite a lot of control to the publisher. That's usually a prerequisite before any publisher thinks about investing 7 digit numbers in a high-risk enviroment. Though of course, I have no idea how the relation between BSS and RTL really looks like. I'm just guessing it's similar to the way it has been dealt with since the dawn of game-development.
Frankly, my thinking is that BSS will not concern itself with publishing within Bulgaria before the european release under RTL. Before that BSS will propably use 105% of it's resources on developing the game. I personally don't expect a Bulgarian website before the game's international launch.
jediguardian
15 Jan 2008, 17:28
Why do you even keep discussing this?
Mephistopheles
15 Jan 2008, 17:33
Propably because it is a matter of interest to a part of the community.
DUH. ;)
Pericle
16 Jan 2008, 21:01
I just saw the trailer on the german website, where is the english one? Or is there one?
It looks AWESOME!!! Superb job!
Keep up the great work you do!
Anlashok
17 Jan 2008, 07:22
Just my opinion only, but this community is not going to be large enough to support areas of many different languages for people to go run off too. Our best chance of this game succeeding is really to keep it one community. English seems to be the most common "online" language for lack of a better term so it would be in everyones best interest if they stuck to that for forums and such.
Hopefully I will be proven wrong and their will be thousands upon thousands of people playing the game around the clock and communicating online so maybe they can do areas for different regions, but I am just not counting on that myself.
Anyways, just my 2 cents.
Well, considering Worldshift is a team-play oriented game, different language sub-forums (at the least for the languages the game is being selled on) are nearly *a must-have*. Naturally, if there aren't official sub-forums of such kind, the players can communicate, arrange times for games etc. through other ways too, but it would be both less convenient for them and for the forum (unless, of course, the purpose of the forum is to have only a core of fewer members). Of course, such a multi-lingual forum might not necessarily be this one, since it's preferable to be in a big forum, where moderators can moderate all those languages (and for here we'd need to "import" mods in such a case). But, yeah - all in all, the decision isn't ours, so we can only speculate about what would be and what not...
BlackPhoenixBG
13 Feb 2008, 18:29
Actually i'm not so displeased by the lack of bulgarian at the site page but the lack of the a sub-forum. I registered and started to follow the game development in big part for being worked by a homecountry studio, maybe some act of solidarity so to say... So at least they can acknowledge the bulgarian audience. How many games we had that were made by 'us' over the years- two ? So every new game made here deserves to be presented more and brought to our attention as more as possible.. And i really don't thing that adding a subforum really costs something.
Actually i'm not so displeased by the lack of bulgarian at the site page but the lack of the a sub-forum. I registered and started to follow the game development in big part for being worked by a homecountry studio, maybe some act of solidarity so to say... So at least they can acknowledge the bulgarian audience. How many games we had that were made by 'us' over the years- two ? So every new game made here deserves to be presented more and brought to our attention as more as possible.. And i really don't thing that adding a subforum really costs something.
Uhm, Black Sea Studios have one game (Knights of Honor, with Worldshift being currently in beta), Haemimont Games have 6 (?) (Tzar, Celtic Kings, Punic Wars, Imperivm, Rising Kingdoms and Glory of the Roman Empire), Masthead are still working on their upcoming MMORPG (Earthrise) and AFAIK some other studios are working on their first projects too. So "we" have made more than two games, which apparently indeed need to be presented more to our attention! ;)