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Frujin
6 Jun 2007, 13:25
http://www.worldshift-game.com/images/stories/forum/ws logo.jpg

Black Sea Studios, the developer behind the highly rated strategic simulation Knights of Honor, announced WorldShift (http://www.worldshift-game.com) today. WorldShift is next-generation, cyber-fantasy RTS game set in a dark future of Earth, where todays' civilization is only a fading mysterious legend. With WorldShift, Black Sea Studios are again offering really different, unexplored view on the RTS genre and a lot of deep, addictive gameplay. WorldShift had been in development for long time already and more announcements will follow in close future.

More information about WorldShift is available at the game's official website: http://www.worldshift-game.com

Cheeeeers! :go:

anguille
6 Jun 2007, 13:31
Oooooh! Great news...:go:


Just a question:

Is this the game that was shown on the BSS page during the last few years (strange skull) or is this something else?

Thanks

Edit...what are the system requirements? will it work on a 1.7GhZ machine?

Mephistopheles
6 Jun 2007, 13:49
Please correct that first link. I don't think you want to link to worldshit-game.com...
;)

Frujin
6 Jun 2007, 13:54
LoL ... thanks Meph!

GogoT
6 Jun 2007, 14:15
10x
Frujin, when the game is going to be publish ?
And will Bulgarian players be able to buy it ? Because we aren't able to buy KoH in Bulgaria :)

Kuno
6 Jun 2007, 14:25
That looks very nice Frujin! :go:

Do you work alone on this game or do you have a partner like you had SF for KoH?

GogoT
6 Jun 2007, 14:36
http://www.worldshift-game.com/images/gallery/EJVHKB/judge1.jpg
what is this LOL LOL LOL... Cool as\like me :D

NikeBG
6 Jun 2007, 15:41
BSS strikes again! Looks quite interesting, Frujin! And I hope you'll explain us soon what these inovations are! And I'm also especially glad you've taken into good consideration the growing factor of the multiplayer on the market (considering the "unqiue cooperative multiplayer gameplay")...

Btw, could I ask about who's in the team? Is Glorian making the music for Worldshift as well?

Arjuna
6 Jun 2007, 15:50
the game is rly sweet ;)

Frujin
6 Jun 2007, 15:51
Thanks and nice nick Arjuna :go:

Arjuna
6 Jun 2007, 16:25
hehe thx ;)

Hawk Knight
6 Jun 2007, 16:35
Nice game frujin :cool: you may get me addicted to it :)

how long have you been working on it already?

Dobber
6 Jun 2007, 16:45
Sounds and looks great! I will have difficulty waiting on it!

bgnato
6 Jun 2007, 17:17
Hell, its about time ! ;)

Chavi
6 Jun 2007, 17:52
Great news! Keep up the good work!

Xuca
6 Jun 2007, 20:58
Good luck with the game, Frujin!

Trogallart
6 Jun 2007, 21:04
Omg a Rts :) Please do not make "heroes" or "unique units" in all races, please make a real RTS as we are waitting for a long time now :rolleyes:

How many ressources will the players have to collect in this game ? what kind of ressources ? Will the environnement be a part important in the strategy ? (like in Aoe or warcraft 2 with the control of water for petrol or Fishing )
Will it be possible to make a big army ? Around how many units?

Well good luck anyway i'll keep an eye on it :)

Fiver
6 Jun 2007, 23:06
Sounds, and also looks, great Frujin. Keep going :go:

Valcho
7 Jun 2007, 00:02
Screenshots look amazing! Well done, keep up the good work :]

BoGLe
7 Jun 2007, 01:10
@Trogallart - will there be any resources at all? :)

The plot is very intriguing. ;) I like it. The screenshots look great indeed. Waiting for more info. ;)

patriot
7 Jun 2007, 08:22
Hoping to see this on my pc!

elvain
7 Jun 2007, 09:54
the game looks great. :go:

I'm looking forward to see more :cheers:

maybe it will be first not-medieval-strategy game I will ever buy :)

BBBmizernika
7 Jun 2007, 11:22
Black Sea Studios is bulgarian game studio.Then why the site and the forum is on English?
I think that the game will be magnificent.Well , not as magnificent as StarCraft2 , but Black Sea Studios ain't Blizzard.

P.S.Sorry for the bad Engish , I'm still learning it.

BlackSailor
7 Jun 2007, 12:05
Congrats for a new game BBS :go: It looks fair good. I'm pleased :cheers:


Somebody mentioned Starcraft2 - omg such comparison is absolutely unnecessary. There are no rule such as: "Thou shall play only one RTS at a time".

P.S.
The funniest thing is that here we are 90% bulgarians but we still typing in english lol :D

P.S.S.
I DON'T apologize for my far from flawless english, because it's not my first language and when western world starts to learn bulgarian and starts sorry for their bad bulgarian, then I may starts sorry for my bad english :p

anguille
7 Jun 2007, 12:38
English isn't the first language for most "Western" countries either...;) But it's the language understood by most...

NikeBG
7 Jun 2007, 12:42
Honestly, Worldshift indeed does not remind me of Starcraft 2 (at least from the little info we have on the two games). When looking at the screens, I do have the strange feeling that they remind me of this game, of that game, of that other game, but in the end I guess I'd think "No, that other game reminds me of Worldshift" (hopefuly)!
Arg, I can't wait till more information is released! And I do hope it will also be released in Bulgaria as well, because ordering games through the net isn't my favourite way...


P.S. Indeed, could you give us some aproximate system requirements? So that I know how much time should I save money to buy both a new PC and the game... ;)

GogoT
7 Jun 2007, 17:32
Some more info ?
Worldshift is going to be the best game of the year (2007 or 2008 ) ;)

kalaybg
7 Jun 2007, 18:13
More info about Ability Grid ? :D
Starcraft2 will be fair game nothing more :// But WorldShift has the potential to become really great strategy ;)

edrperez
7 Jun 2007, 18:57
This game really look good. Waiting for more info :).

Here you will find various links to download music, videos, demo version, etc.

Come back later!

I hope later doesn't mean 2008.

NitrousX
8 Jun 2007, 00:11
Niiiice...finaly another game from BBS(guys you did just magnificent job on KoH)...Also I have some little questions and suggestions(also it might be early at tihis time):
1.Is there going to be any fantasy elements in the game...magic or somerhing like it(you mention relics), cause I'm really getting sick of RTS combining sci-fi with magic and so on.(Rise of legend,Starcraft,Warhammer 40k(althought I REALY like WH 40k)).All I'm saying is that this type of games becomes really exploited lately(like WWII strategies)...
2.Is the enivoriment in the game destructible(I really wold like to see some of those big trees torn down :) )...
3.Guys lets face it real...by the screens the game just look like a masterpiece...but sc is far more popular and sc2 was probably the anounce of the year...PLEASE try to release the game BEFORE sc2...otherwise you just risc the good or mabye far better than sc2 project become a victim of the zombied sc2 mainstream fans...
That's all I'll keep eye on the site and the forum! ;)

krazilec
8 Jun 2007, 08:14
Oh my God dudes this looks amaizing. Keep up the good work.

DeSanN
8 Jun 2007, 14:38
The game loox awesome... keep up the good work...

I approve of this:

3.Guys lets face it real...by the screens the game just look like a masterpiece...but sc is far more popular and sc2 was probably the anounce of the year...PLEASE try to release the game BEFORE sc2...otherwise you just risc the good or mabye far better than sc2 project become a victim of the zombied sc2 mainstream fans...
That's all I'll keep eye on the site and the forum! ;)

kalaybg
8 Jun 2007, 17:19
Starcraft 2 doesnt have potential nothing new , old graphics .. big failure for Blizzard .. never mind its still under development i dont like anything in SC2 . I hope World Shift will surprise me :go:

shinobi
8 Jun 2007, 19:54
Frujin, when the game is going to be published ?
And will Bulgarian players be able to buy it ? Because KoH is not available for purchase in Bulgaria.

emecks
8 Jun 2007, 20:50
Ok. I plan on being on this board on a daily basis.

There's something about this game that is oddly facinating and it absolutely requires my attention.

*sets up a tent*

Strezov
8 Jun 2007, 21:22
Looks Nice!

Glad to have ya back, mates!

Keep up the good work,
Georgi

NitrousX
8 Jun 2007, 23:57
Starcraft 2 doesnt have potential nothing new , old graphics .. big failure for Blizzard .. never mind its still under development i dont like anything in SC2 . I hope World Shift will surprise me :go:

It's quite bad that around 10 million(at least) people think differently...all I'm trying to say is that WorldShift may be 1000 times better than SC2...there even may be 1000 games better than SC2, but sc is the most comerse RTS nowdays(comerse doesn't equals good) and the only chance that this game will reach some bigger glory is if it's released before SC2...BTW old graphics...nothing new...have you checked www.starcraft2.com ?

Frujin
9 Jun 2007, 00:40
Thank you all for the kind words and also, your critics are by no means ignored! Your opinions does matter! Also, the questions you asked will get their answers for sure ... even if it sometimes takes a bit longer for us to prepare a proper complete answer.

Strezov
9 Jun 2007, 23:25
Sorry to post again here but I want to say some words about SC2. I know that most of you people hate Blizzard, because of all the fame and money they've got. SC2 is going to be a marvelous game - and I say that, because I see this old "view" and all the new things, which are combined in it. And I'd be very sorry if WorldShift goes on sale after SC2... because there would be a HUGE battle. Whatever we say, Blizzard are the Best. They make soup operas sometimes, but they always force you to play. Whether you like it or not.

Also I remember playing WoW with most of the BlackSeaStudios crew - it was very nice, lads :)) "Ace of Spades", hehe :P

P.S.
I made a long-overview of the site and the texts. I like most of the things, but... the three races and especially "The hive"... I simply don't appreciate the idea.

But, as I read in a forum yesterday:
- Well, it's going to be a simple strategy, nothing more. Same plot... just the art's good.
- Yes, but Knights of Honour didn't show nothing new on first glance. But it was really incredible with all those diplomatics and so on, and so on.

We have faith in you, do not disappoint us ;)
Cheers!

NitrousX
9 Jun 2007, 23:39
Exactly what is the Hive supposed to be(sounds pretty much like the Zerg)...?

Frujin
9 Jun 2007, 23:41
Well, it's going to be a simple strategy, nothing more. Same plot... just the art's good.

Mmm .. you are very very wrong here :) Actually, we realize that in last 10+ years people are playing one and the same RTS with small minor tweaks and in different (or sometimes not so different) settings over and over again. So, we decided to explore some very different direction.

Xuca
10 Jun 2007, 01:15
Well let's hope you don't get lost during the exploring. :p ;)

Frujin
10 Jun 2007, 08:16
Well let's hope you don't get lost during the exploring.

:)

GogoT
10 Jun 2007, 11:20
Hmmm WS is 3D, isn't it !?!
Then KoH2 will be 3D too ?!

papabear
10 Jun 2007, 12:40
No, I like KOH being 2D.

Anyway, WS looks fantastic and I hope the gameplay will be very good, too.

http://www.worldshift-game.com/images/gallery/EJVHKB/judge1.jpg this one's great and I've even made my avatar with it :)

GogoT
10 Jun 2007, 12:49
Yeah, but what is this ? The ledder of Human race ?
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k262/Gogo_t/Untitled-1-3.jpg
:rolleyes:

NikeBG
10 Jun 2007, 14:10
Ok, from what I read in Worldshift's site, can I make some guesses?
- "WorldShift introduces many features new to the genre, like modifiable factions", which would mean that you can have the same faction be quite different for one player and for another, who can customize certain aspects of this race differently? F.e. something like the god in Age of Mythology - you have the Greek faction and with each era you could choose one of two gods with different traits (so in the end some Greeks had Cyclopses etc., while others had other kinds). Of course, I hope that if it is so, it would be on a quite higher level than in AoM.
- "In WorldShift, there are no technology trees featuring hundreds of upgrades; instead, WorldShift allows the players to discover and acquire a vast number of items and powerful relics that they can use to freely change their gameplay and preferred tactics and to surprise their foes." This is what intrigues me the most. It reminds me somehow of Tzar: The Burden of the Crown (God, I love this game), where most units could pick items too, which would increase their stats one way or another. So, would it be here something like with Battle Realms, where you take a simple peasant, send him to the Barracks (or in this case - give him a sword f.e.) and he becomes f.e. a Ronin, then send him to the Archery (f.e. give him also a bow) and he becomes a Samurai etc.? Or how else would these items replace the technology tree? Perhaps it won't be on a micro-, but on a more macro- (global) level of the gameplay?
Btw, will there be experience for the units, like there was in Tzar? ;)

Strezov
10 Jun 2007, 18:20
Frujin, you have misunderstood my opinion back there. These are not my words, they are just copy-pasted from a Bulgarian Pen'n'Paper Roleplaying forum.

I enjoy all the games which are made in a professional way - whether they present us something new or old (of course the plot and music should be made perfectly well... if not, I'm not a fan).

Looking forward to playing WorldShift.

Best wishes to the whole team,
George!

NitrousX
11 Jun 2007, 10:49
Sorry for being sceptic and all, I know it's waaay too early to make any kind of gueses on the inovative item upgrade system, but why do i have the strange feeling that instead of the "complicated" tech-tree like in other RTS in WS it would be replaced by...an item tree.That doesent necessarily means that the tree would be displayed in game,but as far as i can guess from the previous statements and the info on the site the system would work like this:you have normal soldiers,but you want RPG troopers...you give the soldiers a RPG an they become the new unit type...well in case of tech tree the system is not that different.You have soldiers,you research the bazooka upgrade - now you have rocketeers.Although it might be interesting if you have soldiers and when you upgrade them with RPG,you become unable to build normal units,but only such with RPG(makeing the gameplay strategy,and right selection of units a key factor to victory).These gueses are based if the items you found work as macro(affect all units,not only the one that picked them).
On the other hand if the items work like micro,meaning each unit can be equiped with different weapon...well that's not so far from WH40K where each squad can be equiped with different weapon or weapons,makeing them multifunctional...the only difference would be that in WS you would have to aquire the item,instead of researching upgrades...
Well thats the sceptic point of view i hope i'm wrong and you really have something up your sleeve that might rock the genre of RTS as we know it.

Frujin
11 Jun 2007, 15:34
It works like none of the above.

Kuno
11 Jun 2007, 17:03
Hmm...maybe we should start asking the other way around: Not asking how the game works but starting to give own ideas so we can slowly cancel out all the possibilities which do not fit and after 100 questions we might have a result because no other options are left...:D

Arjuna
11 Jun 2007, 17:32
Hmm...maybe we should start asking the other way around: Not asking how the game works but starting to give own ideas so we can slowly cancel out all the possibilities which do not fit and after 100 questions we might have a result because no other options are left...:D

wouldn't be such a bad idea! I think frujin should start a thread about this subject...
maybe there's even a chance to integrate one of the ideas into the game :)

sooo frujin :) your turn ^^

NikeBG
11 Jun 2007, 20:35
Ok, let's start the brainstorming, people! :D
First, I still guess that if items influence "technology", it would be on a micro-management level, not macro-.
Second - however, if it doesn't work like any of the example above, I can't really get how would it work (and it would be very good if noone of us would guess, since it would really show inovativeness beyond imagination). Of course, items could also f.e. influence diplomacy, even terrain itself, but I wouldn't really call that inovative.
What else? Perhaps it would have something to do about this so-called "Ability Grid"? Anyone with ideas what this grid could be?

jediguardian
11 Jun 2007, 23:35
I hope the game will be more macro- type. I just prefer this. And when is the next upgrade to the site? I want to see more ;(
Keep up the good work!

Edit: Oops I kind of wrote wrong my birth date. It is the 8th of May not the 5th ;(

NikeBG
12 Jun 2007, 09:02
Yes, that brings out another very important question - is it a strategy or a tactical RTS? If it's a strategy (like KoH)... Hmm...

Frujin
12 Jun 2007, 09:47
Yes, that brings out another very important question - is it a strategy or a tactical RTS? If it's a strategy (like KoH)... Hmm...

WorldShift is not "global" like Knights of Honor. But again, it is very different than most of the RTS games released in last decade.

Arjuna
12 Jun 2007, 13:11
WorldShift is not "global" like Knights of Honor. But again, it is very different than most of the RTS games released in last decade.

hm "very" different... could you please define that ? ;) hehe!
I'm "very" anxious to get more information about the game.
btw besides that... a more important question...
will there be an open or closed beta test available for the community?
I think this would be a rly good thing to improve a lot of features within the game.

krazilec
12 Jun 2007, 18:31
I agree with Arjuna. :D

Trogallart
12 Jun 2007, 22:47
what are the "Lords" omg some kind of heroes or uniques units? will it be a "Micro managment" rôle rts as warcraft 3? :eek:

dude i thougth we will found a real Rts there... :bash:

Well good luck anyway for your project...
it's not a Rts that include macro managment...
if there is that kind of units and gameplay i dont even have to try it to know i wont like it...:(
I dont like when the strategy in battle consist focus on the control of one unit... circle etc... it sux to me i dont like "micro managlent"...
when i play i like managing a conflict with distance...

God blame blizzard that have launched war3 and their god damn heroes... :rolleyes:

Mephistopheles
12 Jun 2007, 23:32
In what time-frame can we expect an update to the site to get some hard facts on why Worldshift is so special?
Weeks? Months? This year? I'm not asking for a date, I'd just like to know in roughly what month we should expect some information.

NitrousX
13 Jun 2007, 00:10
In what time-frame can we expect an update to the site to get some hard facts on why Worldshift is so special?
Weeks? Months? This year? I'm not asking for a date, I'd just like to know in roughly what month we should expect some information.

I couldn't agree more...

About the lords:
I think they'll be like heroes,wich means you have to micro-manage them...
Trogallart I really don't understand why you hate micro-managment it's what make games really good.For christ sake I 've seen replays where even in StarCraft, a no-chance battle was won due to micro-managment.It's what really shows how skilled a player is...still my oppinon.Also Kuno, i think that saying what the features will be is smarter than saying what they won't be...all fan-related speculations are what a game would be,not what a game wont be...If we're to say evreything that may not appear in the game I'm first:a flying spaghetti monster(although it'll be funny)...So please everyone start thinking on what it may be instead of what is not going to be,I really think we'd all be very creative at the second...

EnJoY
14 Jun 2007, 03:54
Looking forward to this game very much. The graphics especially look spectacular even at this stage of development, and the entire concept is extremely neat! :go:

Frujin
14 Jun 2007, 09:11
In what time-frame can we expect an update to the site to get some hard facts on why Worldshift is so special?
Weeks? Months? This year? I'm not asking for a date, I'd just like to know in roughly what month we should expect some information.

We plan to update the site as frequent as possible. Sometimes 2-3 times in a week.

Arjuna
14 Jun 2007, 12:21
it's been 8 days since you unveiled WS :P
so it's time for more information ^^

fundamental
16 Jun 2007, 13:18
The game looks awesome. I hope more information will be published soon. Keep up the good work! Cheers!

YordanBG
18 Jun 2007, 19:44
I think the Lord would be something like a commander , if he dies , you lose the game ! And the Officers would be like Heroes .
And I thing you would recive a Commander Points , when you find some relic or item you would recive some points and you can deploy more troops or construct more buildings ? For example you start with five CP (commander points) with them you can construct Armory (for upgrades ) Barracks (for troopers) and defend tower . And you can deploy 3 squads of normal troopers . Then you find a relic and you recive more CP for some other buildings and troopers . And when you have enough CP you can call an Officer who wil be something like the Hero in "Celtic Kings" you can attach some minions to him and you can upgrade his skils .

And maybe the difference are depending from wich Megacity you bye soldiers and this city can give you a different kind of help (this is only for Humans)

MisterShady
18 Jun 2007, 22:32
Looks sweet.
Question though, are you guys planning on giving an interview about the game anytime soon (like on IGN,Gamespot, GameSpy)???
Would help to create a bit of a buzz around the game:D.

NikeBG
25 Jun 2007, 17:50
It's been 10 days since the last update, anything new? :rolleyes:

Kiflajiq
28 Jun 2007, 20:34
Here's what I think:
The Lord will be like the commander of the army.You start the battle with him and some other soldiers.If you capture a relic you get bons units to start the battle with.
Ex:You start with a lord,5 troopers and 1 officer.
a) If you have captured a Trooper relic, you start with a lord,10 troopers and 1 officer.
b) If you have captured an Officer relic you start with a lortd,5 troopers and 3 officers.
c) If you have captured a Scout relic you start with a lord,5 troopers,1 officer and 2 scouts(not sure if there will be such units ingame).

Am I even close? :bash:

Frujin
28 Jun 2007, 23:29
Am I even close?

Umm, I am sorry to say but not much. There is an update planned (I only can't say when exactly it will come) which will explain how it works.

Kiflajiq
29 Jun 2007, 08:16
But I mine is closer than the others' right? :P

Pericle
30 Jun 2007, 15:40
Nice idea for a game! I just registered to say I'm behind you guys, supporting you with all your efforts!

Keep up the good work! :go:

jediguardian
5 Jul 2007, 12:12
For christ sake I 've seen replays where even in StarCraft, a no-chance battle was won due to micro-managment.

Yep, BoXeR's immortal marines ;)

I personally have some ideas about those relics but I will wait 'til they release some info

Mephistopheles
19 Jul 2007, 23:51
We plan to update the site as frequent as possible. Sometimes 2-3 times in a week.Your policy on your promises indicates you have a working history in politics, haven't you?

Just messing with you ;) .

Why don't you try to establish a fixed shedule for updates? Many publishers share information on a fixed shedule, like handing out a couple of screenshot *every* second saturday, for example. That also saves the users a lot of trouble.

jediguardian
20 Jul 2007, 01:39
Why don't you try to establish a fixed shedule for updates? Many publishers share information on a fixed shedule, like handing out a couple of screenshot *every* second saturday, for example. That also saves the users a lot of trouble.

True indeed.

shinobi
22 Aug 2007, 12:14
14 New Screens (http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=45368&mode=thread&order=0) :eek:

jediguardian
22 Aug 2007, 13:10
OMG SO BEAUTIFUL!!! So many details! Did you see the ancient helicopter? BSS I LOVE YOU!!!

shinobi
25 Aug 2007, 10:23
52 new shots (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/worldshift/images.html?sid=6177552) and WorldShift First Look (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/worldshift/news.html?sid=6177549) @ GameSpot :cheers:

jediguardian
25 Aug 2007, 12:08
Nice! I want a gameplay video though...

Lunatik
26 Aug 2007, 11:43
Very nice! :D

jediguardian
27 Aug 2007, 11:46
GC is over. I am waiting for the site update with a video. Frujin we need you! :D

Frujin
27 Aug 2007, 14:26
:) .. a bit longer plx!

Pericle
27 Aug 2007, 16:49
:) .. a bit longer plx!

Please, please, please! :D Hurry! :D

jediguardian
27 Aug 2007, 22:02
Please, please, please! :D Hurry! :D

Don't push him, at least we know an update is coming :cheers:

Mephistopheles
27 Aug 2007, 22:14
Don't push him, at least we know an update is coming :cheers:Well, that isn't surprising, is it? Or would you have expected him to throw his job and freeze WS? ;)
(Well, I hope the feedback at the GC wasn't that devastating :D .)

jediguardian
28 Aug 2007, 19:48
Lol I guess the update is not coming today ;(

Anlashok
31 Aug 2007, 06:35
Guess not. Will be awaiting some actual gameplay video anxiously!

jediguardian
31 Aug 2007, 21:58
A huge update is here, but no GP video. I am glad WS will be released in Bulgaria. Gread job guys :go:

Edit: The new units are great!

YordanBG
10 Oct 2007, 13:41
When is comming an Update, we can't wait any more :)

turkeypuncher
11 Oct 2007, 02:08
It has been nearly a month since an update. When are we going to be blessed with a few more sneak peeks of WS?:bash:

Frujin
11 Oct 2007, 09:32
Uhm, not that I promise anything, but what about telling us what would you like to see in next updates? :)

tenax
11 Oct 2007, 11:29
I want to see how Ability Grid affects style of gaming of different players. Example: one player using defensive bonuses and another using offensive. Or info about the Assassin unit. Or ... may be I should stop asking, lets other people say whats on their mind. It will be nice to explain in the movie about the Grid's bonuses in text and examples. Sorry, if I am asking too much. Peace!

PS: Oh, we don't know anything about other races :( may be their time has come...

Mephistopheles
11 Oct 2007, 11:32
Play a skirmish-battle, document it with screenshots and then select 6 descriptive shots for the website.

Richard
11 Oct 2007, 22:37
I vote for showing some units and info from the other 2 factions.:D

jediguardian
11 Oct 2007, 23:00
I want a video showing unit interface and interaction with the game. Maybe 8-10 minutes long. And in the video a new unit/race can be revealed. Many in 1 :D

Richard
17 Oct 2007, 01:54
So what happened to that juicy update? This forum looks deserted most of the time and think the reason is that we get updates about the game only once a month :confused:.
It would be nice if the devs posted more regularly. Something like Dev diaries would be nice.

tenax
17 Oct 2007, 10:40
Hm... Diaries you say? Interesting. Something like this, I guess:

Day One: ...

I don't think so. No one of the crew would like to take the role of biographer. You see we haven't got any update from a month, diaries is the last thing to do. I guess Frujin will agree with me.

Frujin
17 Oct 2007, 13:32
Sorry people for the slow times. I will see if we can put up something for you today or tomorrow :)

phpBG
17 Oct 2007, 14:55
Not like that, tenax.
Maybe like " This week we did...."
"And here's what we did this/last week : ..."
Or something like that (in the form of updates).
That would be great.
Though I doubt they would do that (after all, it's been almost 5 weeks since the last update... :( )
Hey, Frujin, what's going on?
Are you guys on a strike too? :p

About what I want in the update :

1. Some info on the Ability Grid
(but that's definetly the most secreted one, so I'm not hoping much... :sad: )
2. Some more info on the other two races
(though I think that's the second most secredet thing... :rolleyes: )
3. A video of the game. A big one, not like the Trooper video. 5-10 minutes. Show something about the gameplay. Why not a skirmish/multyplayer battle? Even if it is 1vs. 1, and both players are with the Humans (guess you wont show the others... :confused: )
4. Or at least some info on the Assassin unit.

Note : that last one must go with a few screens :cool:

tenax
17 Oct 2007, 17:45
Sorry people for the slow times. I will see if we can put up something for you today or tomorrow :)

Holly Cow!!! You shouldn't say so. I can't sleep all night if updates are ready for tomorrow.
"I am not an addict to WS."x5 **** it doesn't work!

phpBG
17 Oct 2007, 20:00
Hahaha
Well, in that case, try with "Nah... They won't have anything ready by tomorrow..." :p
Or "They haven't given us anything for over a month now, they won't give us anything tomorrow too. What's the chanse that could happen? " :rolleyes:
:D :cool: :D

jediguardian
17 Oct 2007, 20:13
Can't wait for the update :)

tenax
18 Oct 2007, 12:35
"They haven't given us anything for over a month now, they won't give us anything tomorrow too. What's the chanse that could happen? " :rolleyes:
:D :cool: :D
Man, you have a big mouth (no offense!). Lets pray. "O mighty Tangra give me strength to resist my weakness and give rest to my soul. Save me from temptation not to break my keyboard, while typing http://forums.blackseastudios.com. Ahmen!"

phpBG
18 Oct 2007, 14:23
tenax,



HAHAHAHAHA
OK, lets pray...
But that's just a way not to got your hopes up (too much), couse if that's right, you'll be a bit less dissapointed.
As I can see, there's still no update yet...
But hey, they still have 10 hours left!... ;)
Btw, nice choise of a god ;P

jediguardian, can any of us? :)

GogoT
18 Oct 2007, 19:38
Man, you have a big mouth (no offense!). Lets pray. "O mighty Tangra give me strength to resist my weakness and give rest to my soul. Save me from temptation not to break my keyboard, while typing http://forums.blackseastudios.com. Ahmen!"

:D :go:

jediguardian
18 Oct 2007, 19:57
Ok the new screenies are up! We have an assassin and a high-tech sci-fi japanese rocket shooting robot :D
I noticed this in older screens but I ask now: What's with the bigger troopers? Are they upgraded or promoted? If it is another officer it is not a good idea to be almost the same as normal troopers, just bigger. The assassin looks like a cowboy.
EDIT: I am not sure the cowboys are assassins at all. They are so many. I thought it was cowboy because I saw the hair like a cowboy hat. Sorry.
There is some guy with a staff too! What is he? Does he make enemies freeze?

tenax
18 Oct 2007, 19:57
Hell yeah! UPDATE, UPDATE. Hey, wait a minute! A pair of screens?!? Come on! Luckily there is new units on them. Oh well, I didn't expect so much little. OK, OK. Calm down- lets see what we have here? Unit-robot-artillery, some guys with rifles, dead frozen troopers. Hmm can s.o. tell me little bit more? And this "milestone", what's about it? Or I'm too curious?

GogoT
18 Oct 2007, 20:40
What's that ? :rolleyes:

Btw, Frujin it will be good if you update the forum. I meen as far as I know there will be Bulgarian language section... I can not ask you all that I want to know because of my "so-so" english :D ;)
EDIT- Where's the "cowboy pic" ? :eek:

jediguardian
18 Oct 2007, 23:06
Look at my EDIT ;)

Richard
19 Oct 2007, 00:40
Hm... Diaries you say? Interesting. Something like this, I guess:

Day One: ...

I don't think so. No one of the crew would like to take the role of biographer. You see we haven't got any update from a month, diaries is the last thing to do. I guess Frujin will agree with me.
Development diaries would look something like this,
http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239934

tenax
19 Oct 2007, 00:48
The example is great. But I am not part of BSS and you should try to sell your idea to Frujin.

phpBG
19 Oct 2007, 14:27
haha

At last! An update!
Well, it's not much... just 7 screens (I think), but it is something.

Hey, Frujin, what's that milestone you mentioned?
Btw, do you hear yourself? "... you don't wanna know... " ?
Yeah, right... :rolleyes:

Well, I guess that's the Assassin :
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/pa-pa-pa/Worldshift/Pic-3.jpg


I'm sure all of you have seen them, but I just want to be clear. :cool:
(You can also see them in a couple more places.) *WRONG
That's the only screen you can see them in.... I think... ? :?
Maybe there's another one, but if they are somewhere in the crowd, I can't recognize them...
Btw, their lasers, though you can see them only here, are pretty awesome.
Right on the spot, BSS :go: - nothing fancy about them.
Though, you can really do something about their hair... :confused:

The good news is, that we can also see a lot of new units, and 2 or 3 more wild animals.
Which means, that in BSS have been really bisy lately. :go:
I guess you aren't on a strike, eh, Frujin? :p

Thought of posting mini-screens of the other new units, and the animals, but what's the point? I'm just gonna get flamed for the long posts... :rolleyes: (I'm not giving any ideas with that last sentence :cool: )
But I just couldn't resist ot posting this :
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/pa-pa-pa/Worldshift/Spiders.jpg
What is it, Frujin?
Just wild life?
Or is it a unit of The Swarm? :D
Whatever it is, it's not there by accident...
My two guesses :
1. That's a unit of The Swarm, and you wanted to show us (tried to see if we're watching closely.. :p )
2. That's just another wild.... animal ( :crushed: ), and it really was there by accident...


P.S.: Well, we saw you have been busy, butwhy make so much things that long and give us only 7 screens?
You shold give us the unit when it's finished...
Like This (http://www.galaxy-at-war.com/Videos/yodamovie.avi)
Or at least the renders.
Maybe like this : click (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/Master_Windu/GAW_CLONE.jpg).
Those are just for example.
Taken from here (http://www.galaxy-at-war.com)

Frujin
19 Oct 2007, 14:34
The Assassins are on the right pic .. with the red beams. Others are different unit that belongs to the Tribes. And the animals are part of the wildlife. And regarding the rest .. The Swarm, The Hive, The Cult .. they have many names :)

http://www.worldshift-game.com/images/stories/news/seer.jpg

... they look sometimes like this .. but not always :)

phpBG
19 Oct 2007, 14:36
Oh, hey, Frujin!
So, there's only 1 pic with the Assassin?
The big one, right?
Read the P.S. in the upper post, pls.
And what about the spiders? :D

P.S.:Tell me about the Assassins, so I could remove the other 2 pics, if I have to.
Btw, those guys are carying riffles that look like snipers to me, so I touth they are the Assassins.


EDIT : OK, Frujin, I'm removing the first two pics, the ones you said that aren't with the Assassin.
Don't want someone to get confused... :cool:

And here are the mentioned pics, with some unknown Tribe unit :
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/pa-pa-pa/Worldshift/Pic-1.jpg http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/pa-pa-pa/Worldshift/Pic-2.jpg

IWM
19 Oct 2007, 14:55
wow! The units are great! Frujin, Please make WS comfortable for modding.(and cheating :D )

phpBG
19 Oct 2007, 14:58
WOW, awesome unit, Frujin!
So, the spiders aren't from the Swarm/Hive/Cult...?
And there were some giant ants too.
I guess they aren't in the club as well, eh? "cool:

P.S.: Hope I fixed the problem with my pics, Frujin. :)


EDIT : Frujin, pls, read my PSs and EDITs, and as for the modding and cheating...
Easy for modding - great idea!!! :go:
But NOT cheating... ;P

IWM
19 Oct 2007, 15:15
But NOT cheating... :P
WHYYY!!!

NikeBG
19 Oct 2007, 15:36
I hope the wildlife can affect the gameplay too - attack players and/or be used in some ways.

Frujin
19 Oct 2007, 16:02
I hope the wildlife can affect the gameplay too - attack players and/or be used in some ways.


It does!

phpBG
19 Oct 2007, 17:03
:(
Again nothing about my mile-long posts :p
Is that it?
Is that why you don't say anything about the? :|

phpBG
19 Oct 2007, 22:08
Sorry for the double post, everybody, but that's the only sure way s.o. would see it...

Frujin, I just noticed, that you guys have a lot more work than I thought, even on the units you showed yesterday.
Specifically the Assassin (I don't know about the others...).
A few minutes ago, while I was scrolling through the last page to see if there are any new posts, I accidentally saw this :
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/pa-pa-pa/Worldshift/Close-up-1.jpg

It's a close-up on one of the Assassins.
Sorry for the quality, but that's what you gave us :P (I had to enlarge it...)
It shows that the Assassin is holding his riffle as he would if not shooting (sorry, couldn't think of the term...)
It points to his left, and he hasn't lifted it.
The white spot at it's end tells me ( :rolleyes: ) that it is shooting.
But...
But the laser is coming right from the Assassin's head.
This means that (again, don't know the term) isn't positioned yet. I don't know if that's a default position, but this means that my thought, that this units (or at least the Assassin) are/is ready, wasn't exactly true...


P.S.:Come on, people! You wanted an update! Comment what you got! (I got tired of talking to myself on those forums... :P)


P.S.S. : Frujin, my offer for beta tester is still available! :cool: :go:
Call me (PM me ;) ) when you get to beta version! :D
Even Alpha version works for me :P

Frujin
19 Oct 2007, 22:46
Ergh .. would you check the home page again?

tenax
20 Oct 2007, 02:15
Wow, I have suspicions about the unit at the left top side of the main page from the very beginning. Nice artwork! Can I ask you guys for more wallpapers? Or why don't you share some space for fens' art. It will be interesting if you start a contest for "WS-addict fen art". Lets vote for it! (also I am a candidate for mayor :)

GogoT
20 Oct 2007, 11:25
(also I am a candidate for mayor :)

LoL... are you serious ? Hah, where are you from ?

phpBG
20 Oct 2007, 11:30
Sorry, Frujin, didn't see that...
Btw, nice :go:
Though I don't have comments about it... :) (which, btw, is good ;) )

Anyway, maybe you've read my posts from yesterday.
Can you at least not act as if I haven't asked anything?
At least say "No, you're wrong".
Evan that would be something... :)

EDIT - Just one thing (not about the Assassins, it's about the gameplay...).
I don't know what are you planning to do about that, but I'll say that anyway.
It's about the revealing/map exploring/fog of war.

Do not make the whole map visible from the beginning (even with fog of war) Fog of war would be good, but it's sometimes very annoying... Make it a multiplayer/skirmish option.
I'll give you some names.
I didn't want to, cause someone may think something... :rolleyes:
But I'm sure all of you here have heard these names, and maybe 3/4 of you have played them.
The exploring in "Command and Conquer : Tiberian Sun" (or it's expansion - Firestorm) was really great.
There the Fog of war was enabled/disabled with a multyplayer/skirmish option.
Or in C&C : Red Alert 2 (Yuri's Revenge - exp.)
But in the newer C&C games, like the latest (and most popular) , you see everything from the beginning (though there's fog of war, but it's just not the same...
Ok, I'm shutting up! :rolleyes:

Anlashok
20 Oct 2007, 13:09
Ahhhh!!! still with the red crosses when things are healing. That just is sooo overused in games. Please change the animation to something like a wave that goes over the units while healing or something. Anything but those big red crosses. :bash:

Sorry, just a gaming pet peeve of mine ;)

jediguardian
20 Oct 2007, 13:09
Fog of war adds realism and the map shouldn't be visible from the beginning. The Assassin owns! What is that building on one of the assassin shots? Red crosses are fine with me.

shinobi
20 Oct 2007, 15:42
Ahhhh!!! still with the red crosses when things are healing. That just is sooo overused in games. Please change the animation to something like a wave that goes over the units while healing or something. Anything but those big red crosses. :bash:

Sorry, just a gaming pet peeve of mine ;)
I disagree. The crosses look great :go:

phpBG
20 Oct 2007, 16:12
Hm...
Don't mind them.
Actually, haven't payed much attention.
What don't you like about them?
They seem fine...
And they are something of least importance... :?

IWM
21 Oct 2007, 07:37
I think that FoW must be on. If not, how can we ambush? And yeah, map musn't be visible from start, unless it is in City or a stronghold(The one that have the city or the stronghold must have the map revealed) . In jungle us must explore.

PS: BTW I like 4X Game (Explore, Expand, Exploit, Exterminate). But it looks like WS will be 2 X (Explore, Exterminate) why don't you guys make place where units can be garissoned? It will have more defence again laser and blade, however has less defence againts Bomb . :go:

Frujin
21 Oct 2007, 09:06
There are both FoW and Exlporation.

IWM
22 Oct 2007, 09:51
OK:go:
make WS great, will ya?

phpBG
22 Oct 2007, 15:25
If there is Exploration, I'm happy. :)
At least, for that part of the gameplay :P

phpBG
24 Oct 2007, 18:52
OK....
Why do I get the feeling that this forum is totally deserted? :(
And not only by BCC (:crushed:), but from the comunity too! :mad:

jediguardian
24 Oct 2007, 19:42
Well I am here ;) There were never many people here.

GogoT
24 Oct 2007, 21:40
OK....
Why do I get the feeling that this forum is totally deserted? :(
And not only by BCC (:crushed:), but from the comunity too! :mad:

I personaly don't like this kind of games.... I meen - robots and so on... so thats whay I'm not active here....
:)

Anlashok
25 Oct 2007, 00:59
Well, not many people are aware of this game yet. They need to run some more adds in larger gaming mags and have some articles posted in the major gaming sites on the net.

Anlashok
25 Oct 2007, 01:01
Hm...
Don't mind them.
Actually, haven't payed much attention.
What don't you like about them?
They seem fine...
And they are something of least importance... :?

They look bush league quite honestly. It is how things used to be done in games, but pretty much everyone has moved away from that cheap looking animation over the years.

It looks much nicer with say a healing aura or some other animation. Does not break the realism cycle that way.

phpBG
29 Oct 2007, 00:26
Well, I suspect that WS is far even from beta versoin, so everything is subject to change...

Richard
30 Oct 2007, 01:59
Frujin look
Me hopes there is a beta we can take part in.

phpBG
31 Oct 2007, 12:06
lol
Didn't catch the first line...
And I don't think BSS will let any of us take part in it (meaning beta testing ;) )
But if they did, I'm so there! :cool:

Richard
31 Oct 2007, 17:44
Well, At least they could let us apply for the beta:D .

phpBG
31 Oct 2007, 18:10
Haha
Well, I was second to apply :P
That means, if BSS decides to take a few people from here, I'm in :cool: (hey, second place guarantees me that :P )
But I don't remember in which thread was that...
And it was just a suggestion, of course ;)

IWM
2 Nov 2007, 10:51
Me In too!

(3rd place. Hoooooray!)

phpBG
2 Nov 2007, 12:16
:D :D :cool:
I'll look around my previous posts so I can tell you which topic was that in...


EDIT
Well, Mr. Minister, you already did :P

Same here! Thought I don't promise my friends don't(They all cheaters, even in exams! ...

:p That's your third place :P :cool:

P.S.: If that means you're signing.... ;)

EDIT 2 : I added the post ID number (:P), so if you want to view it, just click an the little thing next to the name in the quote... (don't think it's necesarry to give a link now... ;) )

IWM
2 Nov 2007, 16:57
:D :D :cool:
I'll look around my previous posts so I can tell you which topic was that in...


EDIT
Well, Mr. Minister, you already did :P



:p That's your third place :P :cool:

P.S.: If that means you're signing.... ;)

EDIT 2 : I added the post ID number (:P), so if you want to view it, just click an the little thing next to the name in the quote... (don't think it's necesarry to give a link now... ;) )

Wow .. I forget that. It normal thought. After studying like there no tomorrow. Everyone must have forget that.

(I have exam. Started 5 days ago and it ended in this day. It was the end exam of the first half of 7th Grade. Don't forget I'm in the acceleration classmwhic study at the 1.5 speed than the normal class

tenax
2 Nov 2007, 20:44
Wish you luck in Time Shift's development.

Dude, how could you? Great fan, right? Just learn the name... NO COMMENT FURTHER!

ragnarog
3 Nov 2007, 09:40
Come on BSS i want to play this game as sooner as posible :D ... i only hope the game wouldnt be exceptionally еasy to play because i like to think of different strategies. Go on i and my friends are very very intrested of the game and are looking almost every day for somethimg new. I will be glad to see the game translated on bulgarian, afcours not soon... but one day.Till the game is done i will focus on Knights of Honor :) Koh is wonderful game - complex enough to keep your attention focused on it it...like most of the bulgarian games.Wish you luck in World Shift's development.And hurrrry up please :) Ops ok ok.Afcourse I now the real name but I was in a bit of hurry... sorry for this mistake....aand thanks for reminding me tenax :)

jediguardian
5 Nov 2007, 11:58
I told BSS to call me for testing a long time ago in another topic(or another page of this one) so I am first :P:D

IWM
5 Nov 2007, 13:26
yeah, and me second!
And why don't you guys just call me Irfan? It sound more cool .

phpBG
5 Nov 2007, 13:43
Lolz, guys, back off!
I'll check how's the situation with the places :P
I'll list the queue, as soon as I find everybody :cool:
Men, yesterday you said you're third, now you say you're second
!!!! :|


EDIT :

OK, and the lucky winner is... (:p)

And Number One is...
I know I am asking for too much but if you need testers call me :D

Number two right on his tail is...
Sign me up for tester!

And a little further behind in 3rd place is...
Well, demo testing sound like a better idea. :D

Then, here comes the last one in that thread (all till now are in 1 thread) :
Same here! Thought I don't promise my friends don't

And, we have an entry from this thread, too :
Well, At least they could let us apply for the beta:D .

Congratulations to our lucky winners! :cool:

Let me summarize :

1. jediguardian
2. tenax
3. phpBG (myself :P)
4. Indonesia War Minister
5. Richard

You can check all the original posts, and view when they were posted.
If I've missed someone, or if I've listed them in an incorrect way, I'm sorry, tell me, I'll fix them. :)

Irfan, I'm sorry, but you're not second... :P
jediguardian, you're right :cool:
It appears, that I'm not second, either... :s


P.S. : Men, what an offtopic !!! :cool:

IWM
5 Nov 2007, 14:28
LOL, That because me is forgetting things. You take me to the post me said 'me too' right? If my memory serves me well , me should be the second one to said me join the beta. And 2 days ago I said i'm third because I'm the third one in this thread to said me join the beta

EdiT : sorry, dont see your post. ( i don't refresh the page for 1 ... hour!?) So, me is the 4th. Well, at least in the big 5

phpBG
5 Nov 2007, 14:35
Lol, easy with the "me" :cool:
Why don't you try with "I" for a change? :p

It doesn't matter in which topic is it :p
The fact is, you're 4th.
Don't worry, even if all this wasn't completely pointless, (meaning if BSS actually give some of us a beta/demo [of course, under some conditions...] ), 4th place is still very good, so don't worry.
But to tell you the truth, I don't really think BSS will pay any attention to this
... It's always a good idea to show the public what they can really expect, and listen to their suggestions! :cool: ...

IWM
5 Nov 2007, 15:20
OK OK, I know. But now I want to kick some evil Dinosaur on Paraworld.
why don't you join my RP? it's this http://www.dothack.org/index.php?showtopic=5129 .
To join then use this link (http://www.dothack.org/index.php?autocom=referal&key=4580) . I've been thinking about using KoH as the main plot. Maybe some skirmishes that while be played on Knight of Honor MP . The story of it will be telled on the RP. Okay this maybe offtopic but I can find no other way to revive KoH . When we active there many people will find KoH and most of them when want to know about this game will buy it and make BSS get more money to make KoH 2. And I think WS can also be done the same way. We make RP there, be active, get noticed by the forum member (which is beyond 4000!) . Maybe WS will be famous if we do it that way.

BTW, read all the forum rules before you start RP-ing. And when join type Indonesia at the refferal name . I'm not adverstising, I'm just give you another way to published WS and KoH. The one that want to try can contact me after register by FM-ing Indonesia.

jediguardian
5 Nov 2007, 16:57
I guess we really have nothing else to do until the next update.

phpBG
5 Nov 2007, 18:34
Haha, well, why do you think we're posting such pointless things :P
OK, BSS, it's about time for another update :D

embrioniX
7 Nov 2007, 10:12
Sorry for the offtopic, but I had to say this:

There is discrimination about the threads some users make in this forum!!!
Hey Frujin what's matter with you? Don't you see that I revive the forum with all means necessary!?! Can't you be more grateful, as not to erase my threads, or the next step is to do the same with my account?I'm not an ungrateful man, I only ask for some equal attitude for all users, not only for those that play nice!!!
That's all HAVE FUN

IWM
7 Nov 2007, 11:47
Maybe Frujin not want to have his forum tainted by SPAM!

embrioniX
7 Nov 2007, 12:25
ok

NikeBG
8 Nov 2007, 11:13
First, no thread is erased, the discussed one is only locked.
Second, it wasn't your thread anyway - it was created by meriadoc concerning the promised Bulgarian localization of Worldshift, not about a Bulgarian sub-forum here (which was off-topic).
Third, the good reason to close it was not what you were saying (at least I doubt Frujin is such a dictator), but how it was being said. And, if you ask me, you should be grateful, because I would've banned you for your language even before, if I was him. :rolleyes:
Anyway, this is an off-topic for this thread, so enough with this!

On-topic: Frujin, can we expect some more detailed information on Worldshift soon? I think somebody had mentioned - you had done a pretty great job with gradually releasing rather full info on the different units for KoH, so... :rolleyes: ;)

IWM
8 Nov 2007, 11:58
No, EmbrioniX made a thread titled [[]]][][][][][] or something like that. He wanted to make a SPAM thread and I reply in it with

Construct a nuclear power plant. It must powered 100000 house. If 1 house need 10 KwH , how much the power that the powerplant must generated in 1 hour?

Danisimo
11 Jan 2008, 18:45
Sorry i know i too early fo a question of this sort but please can you tell me will the game be released 1 or 2 half of 2008 in Bulgaria or will it be released next year pls just a hint about the release date

Richard
11 Jan 2008, 19:02
according to this guys it is in 6/15/08
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3165073
I have seen other review that say second quarter

So I would say sometime during the summer.

jediguardian
11 Jan 2008, 22:23
Frujin said they are considering on starting an open Beta. We can say now that BSS are in beta stage of development. Early beta is over (or almost over) and i can assume beta will last 2-3 months.
Possible release date: March-April-May 2008

phpBG
12 Jan 2008, 12:11
March-April-May is too optimistic, if you ask me...
But I hope it comes out by June-July.

ezsteel
12 Jan 2008, 17:19
The German trailer explicitly pointed Spring 2008.
So March - April - May is totally reasonable guess.

Pericle
16 Jan 2008, 21:07
The German trailer explicitly pointed Spring 2008.
So March - April - May is totally reasonable guess.

Hmm shouldn't there be more stuff out if the game will release in like 3 months? Some dev videos, making of, english trailers, not just german ones, etc.? ;)

We need to create some hype!!! :D Let people know about WorldShift!

Anlashok
17 Jan 2008, 07:26
You have my sword!

NikeBG
17 Jan 2008, 09:23
You have my sword!

And my axe!

(Sorry, couldn't help myself! :rolleyes: :p )

IWM
17 Jan 2008, 11:55
And my Rifle!! :p

SkullX
17 Jan 2008, 13:36
And MINE BFG-9000 bwhahahahahah!:p :cool: :D :) ;)

elvain
17 Jan 2008, 14:39
You have my sword!

And my axe!

(Sorry, couldn't help myself! :rolleyes: :p )

somone watching bit too much of Lord of the Rings :D

SkullX
17 Jan 2008, 17:30
Or maybe too much playing of LoTR:Shadows of Angmar lol