Kingdom Unifications

[Atmosphere]

This post is about country unifications and for an example ill do the one i know.

To unify and make England you need to be Normandy
You need to defeat and take the lands of East Anglia, York and wessex make sure you have the lands they start off with.

To unfiy Ireland (easy) I think you have to be leinster (not sure)
you need to take Ulster and Munster :]

To unify Scotland (just simple really) you need to be either Highlands or lothians
and defeat the other team which your not, if you understand lolz.

Also plz reply to correct me on my mistakes :go:

Thanks. P.s this was NikeBG's great idea.

[Carbon]

This is a bit of a quest spoiler, some people don't want to know exactly how to do this so they can find out while playing the game.

[Atmosphere]

This is a bit of a quest spoiler, some people don't want to know exactly how to do this so they can find out while playing the game.

Well if they dont wanna know then they dont have to come on this thread, and also there might be people that do want to know how to get a certain nation. :rolleyes:

[Frankoman]

I have reunified -

England. I played Normandy and conqured all of the territories in England.

Spain. I played as Catisca (Sp?) and conqured all of Iberia (Spain).

Ottomans. I played as Seljuk's and concured all of Turkey.

Scotland. I controled York, Highlands and Lowlands.

Ireland. I controlled all the Irish provences.

Jerusalem. Pope called a crusade...

(Not sure if that counts since I

didn't control it, but was my

vassal. it was cool.. :P)

Does anyone else

notice what I

am doing?

[Atmosphere]

I have reunified -

England. I played Normandy and conqured all of the territories in England.

Spain. I played as Catisca (Sp?) and conqured all of Iberia (Spain).

Ottomans. I played as Seljuk's and concured all of Turkey.

Scotland. I controled York, Highlands and Lowlands.

Ireland. I controlled all the Irish provences.

Jerusalem. Pope called a crusade...

(Not sure if that counts since I

didn't control it, but was my

vassal. it was cool.. :P)

Does anyone else

notice what I

am doing?

Rofl yea i see what your doing, and thanks for all those ill definatly try them

[Carbon]

You unify Russia by conquering central Russian region using Novogorod/Muscovy.

[Dobber]

BTW, Ireland can be unified when you start as any of the three provinces that make up Ireland.

[NikeBG]

Hmm, according to this post (http://forum.sunflowers.de/showthread.php?p=326444#post326444) in the old Sunflowers forum, the unifiable kingdoms in KoH 1.05 are these:


"Un-modded KoH 1.05 Unification Quests

Alhomads: Conquer Fez, Oran, Al Djazair, Tunisia, Tangiers, Granada, Andalucia
Play as Zenata, Zirid, Cordoba - Muslim - Early
Effect: Gain Marakesh, Toledo, Valencia + 5000 Gold

Aragon: Conquer Sardenia, Valencia
Play as Spain - Catholic - Early
Effect: Gain Sicily + 5000 Gold + Cordoba:-500 & War

Bulgaria: Conquer Bdin, Moesia, Karvuna
Play as Bdin, Dobrudzha, Turnovo - Ortodox/Catholic
Wipe out Kingdoms Bulgaria, Dobrudzha, Turnovo, Bdin, Moesia, Karvuna
Effect: Gain Macedonia + 10000 Gold + Serbia:-200

Burgundy: Conquer Auvergne, Alsace
Play as Burgundy - Early
Effect: Gain Flanders, Lorraine + 5000 Gold

Byzantia: Conquer Epirus, Hellas, Solun, Thrace, Nicaea, Anatolia, Antalya, Trebizond
Play as Epir, Nicaea, Trebizond - Orthodox
Wipe out Kingdoms Saloniki, Athens, Latins
Effect: Gain Cyprus, Cappadocia, Rum, Kilikia, Crete + 20000 Gold + 1000 Piety + 500 Books + 3 Power

England: Conquer Kent, Cornwall, Anglia, Mercia
Play as Normandy - Catholic - Early
Wipe out Kingdoms Wessex, Anglia
Effect: Gain York + 10000 Gold + France:-500&War

France: Conquer Acquitaine, Burgundy, Flanders
Play as France - Late
Wipe out Kingdoms Burgundy
Effect: Gain Bretagne, Provence + 5000 Gold + 1 Power

Germany: Conquer Frieseland, Tyrolia, Franconia
Play as Germany - Catholic - Late
Effect: Gain Hannover, Brandenburg, Pfalz + 5000 Gold + 2 Power

Golden Horde: Conquer Perjaslavl, Voronezh, Yedisan, Crimea
Play as Khazars - Early
Effect: Gain 5000 Gold

Ireland: Conquer Ulster, Leinster, Munster
Play as Ulster, Leinster, Munster - Early/Late
Wipe out Kingdoms Ulster, Leinster, Munster
Effect: Gain 7500 Gold

Italy: Conquer Tuscany, Savoy, Lombardy
Play as Tuscany, Savoy, Lombardy - Late
Wipe out Kingdoms Tuscany, Savoy, Lombardy
Effect: Gain Corsica + 5000 Gold + 1 Power + Genoa:-300&War

Ottomans: Conquer Kilikia, Trebizond, Antioch
Play as Seljuks - Muslim - High
Effect: Gain Sinope, Anatolia, Antalya + 5000 Gold + 1 Power

Russia: Conquer Novgorod, Tver, Vladimir, Kazan, Muscovy, Ryazan, Chernigov, Kiev, Voronezh, Saratov, Smolensk
Play as Novgorod, Suzdal, Kazan, Muscovy, Kiev, Ryazan, Ukraine - Ortodox
Effect: Gain Nyland, Olonets, Karelia, Vladimir, Polotsk, Volgograd, Lugansk, Perjaslavl, Yedisan, Lviv, Turov + 2000 Gold + 100 Piety + 500 Books + 2 Power + Khazars:-500&War

Scotland: Conquer Highlands, Strathclyde
Play as Highlands, Lothian - Early
Wipe out Kingdoms Highlands, Lothian
Effect: Gain 5000 Gold

Serbia: Conquer Raska, Macedonia
Play as Zeta - Orthodox - Early
Effect: Gain Epirus + 5000 Gold + 500 Piety + Bulgaria:-500&War

Spain: Conquer Leon, Castilia, Navarra, Catalonia, Saragossa, Toledo, Valencia
Play as Castilia, Navarra, Leon, Aragon - Catholic - High/Late
Effect: Gain Andalucia + 10000 Gold + 1000 Piety + 1 Power + Alhomads:-500&War"

[Frankoman]

Wow that is pretty sweet. I noticed that that came from sunflowers...

Why oh why did they have to close that awsome site!?!?!??!

Ah well. I seemed to have pointed out most of them...

But that is alot! I kind of want to reunify russia.

Then maybe go to war with England! haha

Oh no it's happening again!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lasttime it was unintentional.

Ah well, moving on...

Is that all that you can get?

I would be sure that there is more.

Or was that posted by some BSS guy??

[Atmosphere]

Wow that is pretty sweet. I noticed that that came from sunflowers...

Why oh why did they have to close that awsome site!?!?!??!

Ah well. I seemed to have pointed out most of them...

But that is alot! I kind of want to reunify russia.

Then maybe go to war with England! haha

Oh no it's happening again!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lasttime it was unintentional.

Ah well, moving on...

Is that all that you can get?

I would be sure that there is more.

Or was that posted by some BSS guy??

yea i think theres more too

oh and thats a good idea as i was muscovy and united Russia

then i used bsswitch to change teams (althought i never really cheat)

then i was England and went to war with russia

took all of there land, those russians arent that tough :D

ill post a pic on later to show u.

[IWM]

You can make quest yourself too.
Laudan has shown us how to do that.
But me? I don't want to do something that dangerous.

[Frankoman]

Sweet.


YOu know what is fun?

Playing early, be Normandy, and reunite England, then switch to lotherin, go to war with England, then Highlands, go to war with England, then Wales, go to war with England, Then Ireland, go to war with England (lol), then France, go to war with Lotherin and send a marshle there.

Then lotherin, take York,
Then Highlands, and attack stratiscride, but retreat, then lotherin, and kill highlands.

Then Robert De Bruce will be your king :)

Totally awsome.

[IWM]

But that Includes lots of work,Don;t you agree?
I think just unite all kingdom(ROme too!!) with Bsswitch.And then take one and declare war on all Kingdom(Use Mod Hard Invasion!).I have use Rome but I have been killed in almost 2 hours!!

[Frankoman]

Eventually I am hopeing to make a mod for the game that is based on the times of the Roman Empire, where there is no papasy, and you start in early as just rome, high with France, England, Spain, alot of africa, and another faction Byzantine with all of greese and arfrica and turkey, then late with most of your empire held by rebels.

That would be an awsome mod! But would take a year or 2 to do.

[IWM]

Maybe 6 Month.If the Editor is not as buggy as now.And the BSS guys tell us how to do it.
I personaly think they will help us after Worldshift finished

[Atmosphere]

Sweet.


YOu know what is fun?

Playing early, be Normandy, and reunite England, then switch to lotherin, go to war with England, then Highlands, go to war with England, then Wales, go to war with England, Then Ireland, go to war with England (lol), then France, go to war with Lotherin and send a marshle there.

Then lotherin, take York,
Then Highlands, and attack stratiscride, but retreat, then lotherin, and kill highlands.

Then Robert De Bruce will be your king :)

Totally awsome.

Ive never seen so much anti-Englishness in my life,
it actually makes me feel angry.
Hmm anyway i dont need to make everyone go to war with France because on mine
everyone already does that lolz;)

[Carbon]

Eventually I am hopeing to make a mod for the game that is based on the times of the Roman Empire, where there is no papasy, and you start in early as just rome, high with France, England, Spain, alot of africa, and another faction Byzantine with all of greese and arfrica and turkey, then late with most of your empire held by rebels.

That would be an awsome mod! But would take a year or 2 to do.

Rome was never held by rebels, it was being carved up by Barbaric tribes, Rome would give these Barbaric tribes land and in return they would help Rome fight off Huns, the tribes were the Franks (Germany, France), Visigoths (Spain, Portugal), Ostrogoths (Italy, Slovenia, Dalmatia) and Vandals (Tunisia, northern Algeira, Tripoli). Not to be very serious, but maybe you could do something like that?

[Frankoman]

quite contrare to that, when Rome was in demise, most of the provinces in France and Iberia rebelled, though many were quilled, the rebels had really streched the empires troops thin, while the Franks and Saxons bashed at them.

The Ostrogoths were more of a threat to Byzantium if recall, and the Vandals were Nomadic people who slipped in.

The Huns never were too much of a trouble for Rome, actually, in the two corses I took, atleast, I never remember hearing the Huns attacking Roman soil. :P

Rome also fell to corruption, but thats beside the point :P

I might do something like that, but the religions would be a Problem.

I would change Ortheodox to Zudism (or whatever it is), and have that as the Romans religion, Most of the people would be Pagans, Muslims will be africa like usual, and I'm not suer what I'd do with christianity.

[Xuca]

You have to consider the fact that Islam showed up few centuries after the fall of Rome.

[Carbon]

quite contrare to that, when Rome was in demise, most of the provinces in France and Iberia rebelled, though many were quilled, the rebels had really streched the empires troops thin, while the Franks and Saxons bashed at them.

The Ostrogoths were more of a threat to Byzantium if recall, and the Vandals were Nomadic people who slipped in.

The Huns never were too much of a trouble for Rome, actually, in the two corses I took, atleast, I never remember hearing the Huns attacking Roman soil. :P

Rome also fell to corruption, but thats beside the point :P

I might do something like that, but the religions would be a Problem.

I would change Ortheodox to Zudism (or whatever it is), and have that as the Romans religion, Most of the people would be Pagans, Muslims will be africa like usual, and I'm not suer what I'd do with christianity.

Huns sacked dozens of towns in Rome, so if that's not Roman soil, then I don't know what is. Ostrogoths were a threat, in that they sacked Rome. The Visigoth and Frankish kingdoms were formed when Romans gave up land, (They are not saxons). Vandals were a germanic people, I don't know if they were nomadic, but they were allowed to keep Carthage etc. from Rome, until the Romans expelled them at the last moment, where they mixed with nearby people.

Making a Roman mod is hard, notably the Persian empire in the middle east and Georgia is Zoroastrian, there is no Islam, Judaism, Paganism, Christianity, and there should be several forms of Paganism, Greco-Roman Paganism and Germanic Paganism, also what about Arianism that pops out later on?

[Atmosphere]

Russia: Conquer Novgorod, Tver, Vladimir, Kazan, Muscovy, Ryazan, Chernigov, Kiev, Voronezh, Saratov, Smolensk
Play as Novgorod, Suzdal, Kazan, Muscovy, Kiev, Ryazan, Ukraine - Ortodox
Effect: Gain Nyland, Olonets, Karelia, Vladimir, Polotsk, Volgograd, Lugansk, Perjaslavl, Yedisan, Lviv, Turov + 2000 Gold + 100 Piety + 500 Books + 2 Power + Khazars:-500&War

It's possible to be Ukraine? :eek: how?

[Carbon]

Russia: Conquer Novgorod, Tver, Vladimir, Kazan, Muscovy, Ryazan, Chernigov, Kiev, Voronezh, Saratov, Smolensk
Play as Novgorod, Suzdal, Kazan, Muscovy, Kiev, Ryazan, Ukraine - Ortodox
Effect: Gain Nyland, Olonets, Karelia, Vladimir, Polotsk, Volgograd, Lugansk, Perjaslavl, Yedisan, Lviv, Turov + 2000 Gold + 100 Piety + 500 Books + 2 Power + Khazars:-500&War

It's possible to be Ukraine? :eek: how?

No it's not possible to be Ukraine period.

[Frankoman]

If ukraine is a province, it IS possable! have it as one of your territories, when it rebels, send a marshal with no troops and lure it to seige the city, when t he city falls it will be the province of Ukraine, then bsswitch to it and boom you now control UKraine.

[elvain]

there is no province of Ukaine

[Frankoman]

Good thing I said If at the beginning! :P

[General Hoi]

You unify Russia by conquering central Russian region using Novogorod/Muscovy.

you can unify Russia playing with Kazan(Volga in Holy Rome mod)also.It happened to me once and i was very,very surprised
must say that my kingdom had accepted orthodoxy,don't know if it's a must

[GogoT]

you can unify Russia playing with Kazan(Volga in Holy Rome mod)also.It happened to me once and i was very,very surprised
must say that my kingdom had accepted orthodoxy,don't know if it's a must
It's a bug or Elvain mistake :confused:
Vulga Bulgars are not Russians they are Bulgars as Danube Bulgars

[IWM]

Offtopic?Maybe
What is Blietzkrieg tactics?

[NikeBG]

"Lightning warfare", i.e. you pass through the enemy lands like a lighting and crush everything in sight before the enemy even realises you're attacking him. There's the danger of being cut off, surrounded and destroyed though.

[IWM]

Oh.Thanks

[elvain]

you can unify Russia playing with Kazan(Volga in Holy Rome mod)also.It happened to me once and i was very,very surprised
must say that my kingdom had accepted orthodoxy,don't know if it's a must

as I didn't touch the unite_rusia file in Holy Rome (at least in the latest version) it definitely should not be possible for Volga Bulgaria-ns to unite Russia

As for Kazan it might be possible as I made one more quest for case that some of russian rebel-kingdoms once conquers all of Russia (and is orthodox) and there was Kazan among these provinces. But if you use the mapchanges, there is no khanate of kazan, on the other hand, so it also should not be possible

[Alecterum]

Would anyone be so kind as to tell me how to reunite Venice, please?

[ecthelion]

Depending on the time period, I would think all you need to do is occupy the provinces of Venice and Crete. You wouldn't get any more territories, but it would be much like the reunification of Scotland and Ireland in that your insignia changes and you get some money (w00t).

[elvain]

oh, Venice? in the high and late period Venice already is in.. and in the early it is not possible to unite Venice

[Alecterum]

oh, Venice? in the high and late period Venice already is in.. and in the early it is not possible to unite Venice

Whew, thank you Elvain.

That's definitely helpful. So I take it then that the list on this page is complete of all the Kingdoms that can be unified then?

~Alecterum~

[jediguardian]

Actually in one game Papacy had taken Tuscany and Napoli and the name change to Rome. Since I missed when that happened It could be that Papacy was taken by someone and then captured by a rebel but I don't know. Either way Papacy is not playable in a not-moded game.

[maks]

Actually in one game Papacy had taken Tuscany and Napoli and the name change to Rome. Since I missed when that happened It could be that Papacy was taken by someone and then captured by a rebel but I don't know. Either way Papacy is not playable in a not-moded game.

I had a similar case of Rome (http://forums.blackseastudios.com/showpost.php?p=2785&postcount=8) some time ago. Looks like a glitch more than anything. I wonder if Papacy conquering lands is more vulnerable to it somehow.

[timbojangles]

ok, so i know i am a total nerd, but what i did was unify Russia, then use the "bsswitch" to a pseudo-german country, unify that, then switch to a then-wimpy England, and strengthen that.

I then re-enacted World War II and kicked some you know what with England. The only problem was that the AI was so weak that by the time that i was England, Russia was in chaos, and Germany was getting there.

Oh well, i guess the Anglo-Saxons were destined to win that conflict.

[timbojangles]

Ok, question here, if I am looking to re-unify a country, is there a time limit? As in, if enough rulers of my country come and go, did i miss the boat? I think i remember this happening once when i was trying to unify England with Normandy and i didnt get it done within two generations. But i could have missed something...

[maks]

Ok, question here, if I am looking to re-unify a country, is there a time limit? As in, if enough rulers of my country come and go, did i miss the boat? I think i remember this happening once when i was trying to unify England with Normandy and i didnt get it done within two generations. But i could have missed something...

No, there's no time limit in unification quests. But for the most of them you need to completely wipe out some other kingdoms even if they managed to grab some land somewhere half-continent away.

[timbojangles]

thanks for the info maks...

so i just installed the HR mod, and it was great. Although i found that some of the territories were named differently. This threw me off, although finally just went and found a screenshot and matched the right territories in order to unify.

What is the best time for unifying the Holy Roman Empire in the late period? For my first time i had 2:02. Pretty slow i'm sure, but i tried to be as diplomatic as possible (its a little easier to piss people off in the mod)

Thanks for making the mod by the way elvain, it is great.